Permaculture for the rest of us


Permaculture for the rest of us

Permaculture group for everyone keen to explore and learn

Location: New Zealand
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Latest Activity: Jul 30, 2016

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Organic status of composting newspaper & cardboard 3 Replies

One way of recycling newspaper and cardboard is to compost it. This is recommended in the UK by the Centre for Alternative Technology, who did a lot of experimentation on organic composting methods.…Continue

Tags: organic, ink, newspaper, cardboard, compost

Started by Peter Riches. Last reply by Peter Riches Apr 13, 2012.

Your favourite permaculture books 2 Replies

I enjoyed Linda Woodrow's Book and am interested in reading some other authors what have you enjoyed and found useful?Continue

Started by Lisa L. Last reply by Kirsten Nov 12, 2011.

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Comment by Vicki Hill on February 20, 2010 at 3:07pm
Hi everyone! I too would love to get my garden working on 'true' permaculture principles - so far I've taken bits from different books to build the beds I currently have. We've got pretty good soil but a huge area which we don't use because it's covered with invasive, noxious weeds (oxalis, wandering jew, ivy, convovulus) and with two young children, time is against me to get rid of them! I tried getting rid of them by hand and gave double digging a go and they're too much for me on that scale and the goat only goes so far with them. Can anyone tell me whether it would work building no-dig beds on top of the weeds or are these ones too invasive for that? Any other ideas would be most welcome ...
Comment by Sarah Walsh on November 27, 2009 at 5:19pm
Sounds good to me! :) I ended up just loosening the top foot or so of the soil with a garden fork because that's what I had time for. Now I'm mulching, and that's probably all the digging this garden is going to get :) The other thing is that I like to mix things up, so the garden isn't normally going to be empty to be dug over.
Comment by Niki M on November 27, 2009 at 6:31am
Hi Sarah. Bill Mollison says this in Introduction to Permaculture:
"It does not matter what methods you use to make your garden, whether you choose to double-dig your beds, or simply sheet mulch with newspapers and straw. It's a matter of what suits you. I'm lazy -- full mulch suits me.You are vigorous -- double-digging suits you. Double-digging suits you now because you may be young. Full mulching, you will grow into!"
That's what I love about Mollison's permaculture -- no hard and fast rules :)
Comment by Sarah Walsh on October 16, 2009 at 6:42pm
To dig or not to dig...I've just been reading Kay Baxters book, the Koanga Garden Guide. She's into double digging, and also gardens from a permaculture perspective. However, in Bill Mollisons Á Designers Manual, he says not to dig because of the soil micro-organisms. What is everyones opinion/reasoning on this?
Comment by David on September 28, 2009 at 9:29am
Hi Sarah. Same issue for me. I would love to be able to take the time out for this course but I have three little girls to help raise. It will be some time before we will be able to take out 2 weeks from our businesses and family to do this course. I would be very keen to investigate evening/part time course options if they were available though.
Comment by Sarah Walsh on September 27, 2009 at 7:05pm
I would love to do the pc course, however I have 2 small children, so I think it'll be awhile before I can escape to do it :)
I do know Bri, although not well. I met her at the Nutrient dense food workshop and have emailed her a couple of times.
I'm really enjoying Kay and Bob's book as well because its eating in season and made up of the things we can grow in NZ.
Comment by Fi and Steve on September 22, 2009 at 8:19pm
Hi Sarah,you are right its really hard to understand permaculture from a book,have you thought about doing Kay and Bobs pc next year,its expensive however you will just love it,and it makes it all very clear.I was so pleased to read Kays book as we had been looking for a way of eating that would suit us.Steve hunts,and we live on 15 acres with a big vege garden.We have wwoofers and Ian the one we have now is building a big chicken coop with Steve.Next year we hope to get 2 Dexter milking cows,i have an order out for cows off an organic farm with the a2 gene.Do you no Bri from the traditional kitchen in Hamiliton,she has been a real help with advice on the wp diet,and no i havent had any products from ef yet but i would really like to try some,let me no how you get on,cheers Fi
Comment by Sarah Walsh on September 22, 2009 at 7:26pm
Hi Fiona,
I haven't done a permaculture course, but I've got Bill Mollisons 'A designers manual' and have read most of it ( a lot of it still goes right over my head...I think its going take some on-the-ground experience before it sticks!). I also recently went to a nutrient dense workshop here in was awesome! I was already into the Weston A Price way of eating, so this was really bringing two of my passions together.
Have you managed to get hold of some of the products from environmental fertilisers? I couldn't see the lime product on their site and contacted them, but they never got back to me. Might have to try again...
Comment by Fi and Steve on September 15, 2009 at 6:22pm
Hi Guys,i would love to join your group,i am really pleased that you have started it!I i did my pc in 2000 at Otamatea echo village with Kay Baxter and the late Joe Polaisher (rainbow valley farm) it changed my life!! 2 weeks ago i did a nutrient dence food workshop thru koanga gardens it was held at Otamatea, i had not been back in 9 years and WOW from a very average piece of farm land the 20 villegers have really done a great job with there perme design.I am really looking forward to hearing about your ideas and dreams,Fi from Waiheke
Comment by Sarah Walsh on September 15, 2009 at 12:13pm
So David, since we're the only ones here..what's your experience with permaculture? How do you incorporate it into your garden/life?

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