Hi Phil, welcome to Ooooby! Don't forget to go to 'Sharing' and join the Rotorua group next time you're on here. As I said to Michelle, thanks for the lovely plum jam and parsnips. Very nice, but not so good together. Good to see that you are 'moderate' skill level and Michelle is 'beginner' - you could probably teach her a thing or two... ha ha. Bye!